Earl Gray

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Showing posts with label Robert Archambeau. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Robert Archambeau. Show all posts

Monday, January 2, 2012

Numbers - Part II



In "The Jewel-Hinged Jaw", a 1978 essay collection, Samuel R. Delaney said: "...today, there are fifty times six major poets (about three hundred)..." As Mark Halliday did in Robert Archambeau's blog, Delaney is just throwing out numbers, in this case to make a case about the paucity of objective criticism inflating the stats.

In truth, the last half century has produced a grand total of one major poet, defined traditionally and logically as the author of an iconic body of work. We can predict that Theodor Seuss Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss, might be remembered for as long as the Brothers Grimm, Mother Goose and Aesop.



Not only have no other major poets appeared since Robert Frost (March 26, 1874 to January 29, 1963), there have been no minor ones either. (Lest you be thinking of Allen Ginsberg, he came onto the scene in the mid-1950s while Frost was still very much alive. Ditto Leonard Cohen.) Indeed, aside from Geisel's nursery rhymes and that limerick about the man from Nantucket, there have been no iconic lines, let alone poems or poets, during this period. Works that have come closest to it in this century won't remind anyone of Shakespeare:

  • "Al Bundy Christmas", from the "Married with Children" Season 4 episode, "It's A Bundyful Life", aired on Fox Network in 1989 to a viewship of millions, many more watching it in syndication.


  • "Lost Generation", a reverser by "metroamv" (aka Jonathan Reed), went viral on Youtube, boasting 15,659,066 hits at the time of this writing.

Of course, you know all this. The "market" has spoken. Still, it adds a humorous perspective of Helen Vendler's numbers: "No century in the evolution of poetry in English ever had 175 poets worth reading..."

175!

LOL!


Friday, December 23, 2011

Poetry Numbers - Part I



Want a quick demonstration of how bad we poets are at numbers and how oblivious we are to the effects of losing our audience?

On his Samizdat Blog, in "10,000 Poets: The Problem of the Multitude in American Poetry", Robert Archambeau paraphrases Mark Halliday as saying:



Defining a poet as someone who has published a book, or aspires to do so, continued Halliday, we might conservatively estimate the number of American poets at 10,000 (“or,” he added, “30,000 — when I’m in a bad mood”).



Even if we take the higher number, 30,000, and divide it by the U.S. population figure he mentions, 300,000,000, we get .01% of the population, 1 in 10,000 individuals, being poets. Messrs. Archambeau and Halliday are trying to make the point that there are too many poets. In truth, expressed as a percentage of the population, we have fewer American poets now than at any time in history.

Of course, what is missing is the audience.